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Old 10-07-2007, 10:53 AM   #1
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Blending vs Stacking

I posted this on another forum, but some of you here may be interested also.
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Re: Blending vs Stacking

MP's special 03 mods & Blending vs Stacking

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I want to review Mike Parker’s latest special mods, but first I want to give my take on Blending vs Stacking.

Both allow greater sized screens to be used, and both I think have their own difficulties in setup. Stacks must be aligned perfectly with no convergence drift over the whole image. Blends are also the same except need only worry about the blendzone in this regard, but I think there is an added challenge in trying to make this blendzone seamless/invisible.

Stacking
- slightly more light output (I have yet to see anything pump out more light than Cliff’s G90 stack, although if he were stacking on a 2.40:1 13ft screen I don’t know that he would get more light output than my blend)
- no need for blending processor (cheaper)
- great for 16:9 setups. I see no need for blending if you are running a 1.78:1 screen.
- you can use a higher gain screen for even more light output


Blending
- more raster usage and slower more even tube wear
- greater resolution
- greater resolving power as more vertical height of raster is used, and horizontal resolution is split between projectors
- sharper – I think this is understated. Yes stacks can be sharp and Cliff’s G90 stack is testament to this. But, I just can’t believe you can align 1920x1080 pixels perfectly across the whole screen
- bandwidth – this is a huge advantage, the projectors aren’t working hard at all since they are only dealing with 60% of the image. This not only allows you to use greater resolutions or higher framerates (72Hz!), but there are also other benefits to having excess bandwidth which I’ll discuss later
- each projector shoots straight onto the screen, so very little geometry or convergence correction is needed
- short throw – you can have a larger size screen setup in a smaller room
- 2.35/2.40:1 setups – maximum raster usage here compared to stacking
- CIH – blending cannot be touched in this regard. Cinemascope screens are uber cool
- needs to be on a unity gain screen to keep blend seamless. I think this is good though because you have no issues with color uniformity, hot spotting, off axis seating/viewing cone etc….
- blendzone is at edge of lens but at centre of screen. I will admit that it is not quite as sharp here but only marginally. Good lenses help plenty here. I will point out though that I notice lots of scenes have the focus or actors to the left or right side of the picture, so they are at their sharpest and brightest since they are at the centre of the tube on either the left or right projector
- base level blacks – although Cliff has a mean fade to black, his blacks are still slightly elevated compared to mine. This may not mean much since his whites are so damned white
- blending unit is expensive and has a learning curve

In summary, either blending or stacking will produce an awesome picture on a large screen. If you want loads of light and 16:9 screen, then stacking is for you. If you want a 2.40 CIH setup, 72hz and still sharp, then blending is your best friend.

Now, onto MP’s latest special mods. It’s no secret that these VIM and VNB mods are designed to give your marquee the cleanest possible video chain and massive amounts of headroom in the bandwidth department… but how does it translate into improvements in your picture?

I’ve felt that I had a reference system for the last 6 months or so. I’m blending on a 13’ 2.40:1 unity gain screen. I’ve been running 2520x1050p48. I’ve had MP’s v2 supermods. Gamma tweaks. I’ve got HFQ900 lenses and various other tweaks etc... Problem is I am always looking for more. I thought that MP’s latest mods would help a little bit more in satisfying my insatiable hunger. I was wrong… these are without a doubt the single most valuable upgrade I have done. There is no way I can go back after seeing what these have done for my picture. I am finally 100% happy. So… what’s the big deal? What does running 1080p71.925 do for your movie experience? It does loads!

We all know that 72hz will eliminate 3:2 judder… smoother right? This is an understatement. Combined with the locked 3:2 deinterlacing of the VP50, I’ve never seen anything look so fluid. It has to be seen to be believed. Unfortunately there is no way for me to capture this in a screenshot so you’ll just have to try and see it for yourself. I had a friend over who has been running 72hz out of a htpc and he thought he knew what smooth looked like. This thing is flawless. Looks as smooth as video. It does wonders for the watching experience, especially in pans and fast action sequences.

Did someone say bandwidth?? These 03 Special VIMs gives loads of it. I’m in love

First thing I noticed are details. This is different to sharpness. My setup was already sharp. Sharpness on foreground material is not really a challenge for most crt’s. We’ve seen the screenshots of large eyes, or close-ups of people’s faces. What’s difficult is the background. I always thought this was just the source material. Of course the camera is focusing on the foreground action, of course the background should be out of focus. Wrong. Yes, foreground is more in focus, but there are details in the background that can only be seen with a top video chain. Now I found myself staring at things in the background that I hadn’t noticed before. Things in the background weren’t so blurred and washed out. Overall this gave the picture a lot more depth. I am having ‘3d moments’ almost all the time. I don’t have to fast forward to a particular scene when giving demo’s now…they are all WOW moments. So the speed of this video chain is very important in giving me the bandwidth performance necessary for these background details.

Next thing I noticed was black level performance. Blacks were not only deeper, but shadow details were more apparent. I use gamma bumps with the VP50, but I had to lower these adjustments now that the video chain was able to pick these details up itself. Mike put a black level pedestal pot adjustment on the VIM for me and this really helped in setting up a clean video path. Also, low APL scenes were much cleaner and noise free. I’ll also add that ANSI performance is better. You can see this by putting up a 1:1 pixel pattern, the blacks are darker than they used to be. Put up a word document on the computer and the letters are sharper and you guessed it, inky black. So now watching movies my intrascene contrast has improved, particularly in higher APL scenes. This would not be possible if the video chain was not fast enough to switch to black. If slow, the black levels would elevate (or float) when there’s lots of details in the image, making the area more washed out. The picture now seems to have a greater dynamic range.

I’ll also add that I noticed that colours had more punch, better saturation and reproducibility. Especially pastel colours and my reds improved too. Things look more natural and vibrant at the same time. I started to notice people’s faces had more texture. Like the colours and details didn’t blend in or bleed over. The complexion was more natural.

I also notice that the picture seems cleaner, but I don’t know if this is the effect of having regenerated clean AC power now. Perhaps greater resolving power and no noise on the video chain?

I can also now take contrast up to the high 60’s before blooming. So I’ve just added another ftL to the image.

So to sum up, smoother video, awesome details in backgrounds, buildings, textures in clothing (pinstripes, crosshatches). Very fine details reproduced like facial hair, or imperfections on skin. More depth and naturalness to the picture. Superb inky blacks and shadow detail. But my favourite is the improved contrast performance, punchiness and 3 dimensionality.

I highly recommend these mods. The improvements they have given are truly tangible and have me and my guests smiling.

I’ll finish by saying a huge thank you to Mike Parker. I have spoken highly of his mods, but they don’t come close to how inspiring this guy is. This guy worked his butt off to get me these mods, even when he was going through family crisis. Instead of taking time off to mourn the loss of his nephew, he shipped these boards to me the same day he was traveling to visit his family. Mike, you are truly remarkable, and a great friend.
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Re: Blending vs Stacking

I can't stress enough how much 1080p72/75 (sharp as a tack and completely resolved with ease) with plenty of bandwidth headroom does for your movie watching experience. I have never before fallen so quickly into watching a movie and being completely immersed, without a care of picking on any faults in the picture. The fluidity I mentioned before is only possible at these framerates. SMOOTH SMOOTH SMOOTH as SILK BABY! Then having even better blacks, unparalleled shadow detail performance, background details, colours, clean, improved intrascene contrast, the whole picture comes to life with added depth, dynamic and punch. I can't rave on enough about it.
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I can’t not post some screenshots now can I? I’ve tried to select some that would show off what I’ve been describing. Keep in mind this is all on a 13’ wide 2.40 1.0 gain screen. I used a Canon EOS 5D digital SLR with a Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM zoom lens. Screenshots taken in manual mode, F2.8 34mm focal length, ISO 100, auto white balance, with shutter speeds adjusted for correct exposure. 12 mega pixel jpg cropped and resized with photoshop (bicubic)



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One can only regard your achievements there as Awesome! For those not familiar, Gino acquired the Analog Way DVX "BlendZilla" processor and two nine inch Marquees last summer, totally taught himself every aspect of setup and optimizing his system, and has provided us on many occasions with screenshots To Die For.

Gino is not a video engineer, he is a Dental Surgeon!! Give us some biography on yourself, OK?
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Re: Blending vs Stacking

The main drool factor as far as I'm concerned with blending is the BW freed up to enable higher refresh rates without loosing sharpness. I put up with 60Hz (and the concomitant 3:2 judder), because 72Hz is beginning to soften things too much for me.

It's annoying in a way that BW is being eaten simply because the same frame (i.e. identical information) has to be send three times.
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Amazing screenshots!

Great setup!

1. What happens to 16:9 movies and 4:3 content on the 2.40:1 CIH Blendzilla setup? Do you get black bars on the side like a conventional Digital PJ CIH set-up or is there something different?

2. What connection type is used from an HD-DVD player to enjoy HD content on a Blendzilla setup?
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